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[Swamp Donkey SS]

I can't believe we haven't seen this yet. The new R's have been out for a couple months now and I haven't seen a real comparison yet. My cousin bought a 450R and another friend bought a new DS. The DS would blow the 450 away, especially in top end power and speed. The airbox lid and muffler plug were pulled from the 450 and it woke up nicely. I'm going to the dunes on the May Long weekend, so I'll get some seat time on the R for sure, and maybe a few other racers. I should have a good impression of where the new R stands with respect to the other machines out there as far as sand riding goes anyway. Looking forward to it.... :atv: --SWAMP DONKEY-- **Currently on Disabled List - undergoing rebuild #3** 97 Honda Foreman, 450 Top End, Web cam,Dirty Howies Diff Locker, Maxxis Rubicons, Custom lift kit, Custom Shock Spacers, 2000 lb Warn Winch, Custom S.S bash plate and CV guards, Kimpex Foot guards,Custom bush bumper,12V outlet, Hot Grips, Uni Filter, Gun boot mounts, snorkled GO HARD - GO DEEP http://community.webshots.com/user/taren110

[Swampfox]

Please elaborate on the DS blowing away the 450R on top end and speed. It's widely accepted that no stock atv currently offered has topped the 75 mph mark. The YFZ and 450R are right at that mark as well as the DS, Banshee and Raptor. The more you talk about your cousin's 450R, the more it sounds like he got a lemon or something. At last weeks GNCC I could easily gain on most any atv on the course in the wide open areas and my 450R is geared lower than stock. I do agree however that the 450R has alot of power potential because Honda is famous for detuning it's atvs. The stock air intake is tiny. :thumbsup: Internationally known, nationally recognized and locally accepted! Swampy's pics 01 550 Rubicon 99 400EX 95 TRX 300 4X4 04 TRX 450R

[trx450r2]

Nice pics! love your 1st place trophy??? ;) :yay: LIFE IS SHORT, RIDE LIKE YOU STOLE IT.LIVE TO RIDE, RIDE TO LIVE!! 2000 400EX, CRF450 ENGINE

[Swamp Donkey SS]

Swampy - I don't doubt the power of your R and I can't say too much since I haven't even ridden one yet. All I'm doing is believing what I've been told. My cousin was used to riding his highly modified 250R and then his XL600 in the 250R frame before this quad so he may be a little biased as he is used to having big power. He said when he was riding with the guy who has the new stock DS that he was in fifth nearly full out and the DS was just shifting into fifth. It seemed like he was nearly a gear slower. I can't comment too much until the end of May when I'll get some seat time. I don't doubt the speed and power of the 450, I'm just curious if it lives up to all the hype. I hope it does. --SWAMP DONKEY-- 97 Honda Foreman, 450 Top End 0.050 over, Web cam,Dirty Howies Diff Locker, Maxxis Rubicons, Custom lift kit, Custom Shock Spacers, 2000 lb Warn Winch, Custom S.S bash plate and CV guards, Kimpex Foot guards,Custom bush bumper,12V outlet, Hot Grips, Uni Filter, Gun boot mounts, snorkled GO HARD - GO DEEP http://community.webshots.com/user/taren110

[Brent87LT1]

My last ATVSport mag. had this comparison. '03 TLD Pred 500 '02 Trailblazer 250

[Swamp Donkey SS]

They had nothing to say?? --SWAMP DONKEY-- 97 Honda Foreman, 450 Top End 0.050 over, Web cam,Dirty Howies Diff Locker, Maxxis Rubicons, Custom lift kit, Custom Shock Spacers, 2000 lb Warn Winch, Custom S.S bash plate and CV guards, Kimpex Foot guards,Custom bush bumper,12V outlet, Hot Grips, Uni Filter, Gun boot mounts, snorkled GO HARD - GO DEEP http://community.webshots.com/user/taren110

[Brent87LT1]

Yeah, they said they liked the Yammy. '03 TLD Pred 500 '02 Trailblazer 250

[BroBro]

Ok, the only thing I am going to say is that the TRX450R is better than the the YFZ450 because the YFZ450 doesn't have as many cc's as the TRX450R. In other words, there could be some minor adjustments to the TRX450R that will make it perform way better than the YFZ450. (Like Swampy said):D! I like to ride! Please visit my site: www.BroBrosPage.cjb.net Check out the forum. [This message was edited by BroBro on March 12, 2004 at 12:22 PM.] [This message was edited by BroBro on March 12, 2004 at 12:22 PM.]

[kodiak660]

Also, the TRX450R is a Honda, and the YFZ450 is a crappy yamaha

Spoken like a true kid :headshake: [03 red grizz. ex. mod,warn winch,grip heaters and thumb warmer]pics

[Swamp Donkey SS]

The difference in cc's is minor. The Yammy has a larger bore but a shorter stroke. The longer stroke on the Honda accounts for the extra cc's Displacement= #of cylinders x bore surface area x stroke. --SWAMP DONKEY-- 97 Honda Foreman, 450 Top End 0.050 over, Web cam,Dirty Howies Diff Locker, Maxxis Rubicons, Custom lift kit, Custom Shock Spacers, 2000 lb Warn Winch, Custom S.S bash plate and CV guards, Kimpex Foot guards,Custom bush bumper,12V outlet, Hot Grips, Uni Filter, Gun boot mounts, snorkled GO HARD - GO DEEP http://community.webshots.com/user/taren110

[BroBro]

Hey, I was just joking when I said the YFZ450 is a crappy Yamaha. I'm just not fond of Yamaha, that's all. I like to ride! Please visit my site: www.BroBrosPage.cjb.net Check out the forum.

[marksuttonjr]

Originally posted by BroBro:  the YFZ450 doesn't have as many cc's as the TRX450R.

There is a very minimal difference in the actual size of these engines. I do not doubt that the lowr cc engine has more HP. Contrary to the belief that you clearly have by the type of posts that you have cc do not equal HP. IF EVERYTHING else is the same the larger cc engine usualy has more HP, but that is not always the case. 1985 250 Big Red 3 wheler 1986 Honda TRX 250R 1999 Foreman 450ES 1999 400EX 2001 Rancher S 4X4 2001 F250 Powerstroke 6 speed 4X4 extended cab PICTURES

[trx450r2]

what about the yammies shocking front suspension and the fact you have to put new elka on it before you can jump it? where as the trx450r is fine,stock! LIFE IS SHORT, RIDE LIKE YOU STOLE IT.LIVE TO RIDE, RIDE TO LIVE!! 2000 400EX, CRF450 ENGINE

[BroBro]

Ok put it this way, they are both awesome! :clap: I like to ride! Please visit my site: www.BroBrosPage.cjb.net Check out the forum.

[trx450r2]

:rock1: LIFE IS SHORT, RIDE LIKE YOU STOLE IT.LIVE TO RIDE, RIDE TO LIVE!! 2000 400EX, CRF450 ENGINE